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Grateful Dead – TV from the Tivoli 4-17-72 DVD by mattman
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@Deadeye26
OK. I think you get the idea though if you watched the video. And yes I may have made a mistake.
stashJ8 | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
“Shot up something crazy”? Get your facts straight before you comment on the legend that is Jerry Garcia. Jerry NEVER shot up heroin…only smoked it.
Deadeye26 | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
Not even close, man… Jerry didn’t start using heroin until late ’76/early ’77. This was from their Europe 1972 tour. Only drugs here were marijuana and LSD.
Deadeye26 | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
@bangshift440rt thats tha heeeeerrroon
butthead6886 | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
i woulda givn my leg to have seen jerry =\
butthead6886 | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
jerry gave me that silverface twin reverb with the sunflowers painted on the front , he didnt need it no more , the drugs were more important …
GodfreRayKing | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
he just looks extremely stoned on weed and in the zone to me…
bangshift440rt | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
Well, yeah, I was aware about the drugs. I suppose that’s why it’s so disturbing to me. On the View To The Vault videos, he almost looks like he’s using the microphone to prop up his head while he’s singing. I never really thought about it until I saw the Closing Of The Winterland DVD, and I could see the difference.
Kohntarkosz | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
A lot of it has to do with drugs. On View from the Vault IV it looks as if Jerry just shot up something crazy before the show, because he’s on another planet. Jerry hadn’t done the coke or the heroin during the time period of this video. Well, coke had started to come around in the Dead’s circle, but prob didnt have a great impact until the mid-late blizzard years of the 70s
stashJ8 | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
Eh im inclined to disagree. Bob Marley’s commercial impact in the US was slim compared to the “pop” likes of The Carpenters and all of that stuff. Led Zeppelin wasn’t even a singles band. Their albums all were best-sellers, but they didn’t have as many high charting singles as you would think. The problem of today, is that there hasn’t been enough rock bands on the same equivalency of a Zeppelin or a Marley. Or Beatles, Hendrix, Doors, Stones, Aerosmith, Who, Grateful Dead, and so on.
stashJ8 | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
@pcburgh01 maybe you’re right. there is definitely good music today, but what samansun means i believe, is the commercial successfull artist. back then it was led zeppelin or bob marley who dominated the charts, today it’s lady gaga and so on… i think you get my point
ppxoon | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
Nice to see a relatively slim jerry
ppxoon | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
pcburgh01:
That’s good news then.
samansun | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
PEACE BE WITH YOU GZUSILORD!
bakerism33 | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
but if they are here and gone as you say, how is that steady cash flow? If anything, the most steady cash flow comes from acts like the Dead, Phish, Crowes, Pearl Jam, Dave Mathews, Les Claypool, Moe. and other bands that keep the ride alive.
pcburgh01 | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
Commercial bubble-gum versus concept
albums has been an issue all along. The main difference is that today’s record companies and media strictly allow commercial music that ensures a steady cash flow and does not require any investment.
samansun | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
Now, I am just asking as I am 31 years old and was not even a thought at this point in time; but…….isn’t that kind of similar to what mainstream would have said about the GD at this time? Do we really all become our parents?
pcburgh01 | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
@Gzusizlord why??/
foodo25 | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
after a while and repeated usage the junk gets to you…
hoot6theyre | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
It’s interesting to compare Jerry’s appearance during live footage that exists from the 70′s, versus his demeanor during the late 80′s and 90′s. Here, Jerry sounds and looks like he’s really motivated to play well.
But if you check out the View From The Vault releases, he often looks distracted, and during the instrumental bits, he looks as if he’s fallen asleep while standing up! He literally looks like he’s playing guitar in his sleep, except he’s still standing!
Kohntarkosz | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
BURN THE HIPPIES!
Gzusizlord | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
what a great song… what a great band! NO other band like this before and most likeley never to come again with today’s demand for that terrible rap and teens dance music and whatever. its all GARBAGE.. all these bands today last a year then their done and more bands come in to make MONEY cause thats all they want today then they quit from music once they get it.. atleast gr8ful dead held in for all those years!
Peabody182 | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
Garcia looks really “detached” at this concert.
beyondthesevoices | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
Agree that Kreutzman is unreal, so jazzy and tasty. The whole band were playing like a virtuosa ensemble. Phil’s angular bass is so tasteful, he weaves around Jerry’s leads and (almost) always manages to hit the root during the changes.
dufferdog64 | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply
Definitely, his anchoring role becomes obvious by the difficulty of drumming alongside an experimenting player like Phil.
samansun | Mar 22, 2010 | Reply